EP 214: Essence of Ass (Feat. Kelli Brink)

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Live Laugh Larseny discusses true petty crimes that may be disturbing to some. Or could be easy listening to all you psychopaths out there. All stories are based on actual events. Ehh, but details may vary. Listener discretion is not advised.

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Welcome to Live, Laugh, Larceny, Skinny Dipping and some Chunky Peanut Butter. This is Trevin. Wow, Trevin. And I am Amanda. And today we are joined by a lovely, lovely friend of ours. Lovely, lovely, lovely. Kelly, thank you for joining us today. Oh my gosh, I can't believe.

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You've never been on our show. We've known you for years. It's crazy. You're one of the first people we've ever met as a show. Yeah, same. Yep. In Kansas City at True Crime Podcast Festival. It's about damn time, guys. Come on. I'm so happy to be here, though. I love you guys. We're happy to have you and we love you too. We didn't know how to do guests for like two and a half years. And then after that, I was just afraid to pay for a service to keep doing it, I guess.

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Oh yeah. Yeah, I get that. I feel that. But now we know how to be sociable and yeah, we do it. Yay. So Kelly, you've done so many different things. When we first met you, you were True Crime IRL. I remember we played an ad for you once and you said that you started as a mommy blogger and one of those ads. So I think of you as like a brand, like your Kelly brink in the house. That's awesome. I love that.

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But I know you also have a show that's true crime sleep stories. You probably have so many different things going on that I don't even know about because you know how to do the thing, you know, the business thing that I don't understand. Oh, like what do you got going on? A lot. I do have a lot of things going on, actually. So in the last two years, I've written three books, technically four. I have a new Missing Persons project I'm working on, which is a YouTube channel called Missing Persons Archives.

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And we put a book out about a month ago for that. True Crime Sleep Stories is my main thing I'm doing now. And I've done three books for that podcast. You met me when I did True Crime IRL. That's still a feed that's out there, but I don't do anything with it anymore. I've done lots of editing and producing. But what I love to do is just go fishing and kayaking. That's what I want to do professionally. That would be great.

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You need to find a way to make a podcast about that and use your following to go that direction. Maybe finish on a kayak and podcast. That's a great idea. I could bring the mic out with me, maybe. I've been putting a lot of that on my social media, as you guys have probably seen lately. This summer's just been like everything outdoors. But true crime's been my main thing, though, for like seven years now. That's great.

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You are a multi-talented gal. Thank you. So Trevin. Yes. Do you want to start us off with Dreadful Dilemmas? I suppose I could probably do that. So I have a favorite breakfast cereal that I have been really simping for for quite some time. Like it's probably been over a year. I've had this in my dilemmas list for a very long time. I don't know why I never brought it up, but

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Beneath the surface, you guys, I've been eating Grape Nuts almost every single day. And the dilemma of this is apparently it's not cool. Apparently it's an old people cereal. Molly, our friend, Nurse Molly, who works mostly with older people, told me that that's usually a breakfast that she sees on the tables of all of her, I don't want to say customers, but patients. What is the name of this again? Grape Nuts. Grape Nuts?

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So you must poop every day at least once a day, right? I'm trying. I'm trying. I think it's like high fiber, lots of roughage. It's basically like eating gravel, isn't it? What do you like about it? I don't know. It just kind of blends in really well with stuff. And I do feel that I don't eat enough fiber. So I've been trying to find a way to get more. And that just seems like the most enjoyable way to do it.

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I'll just put some grape nuts in a bowl with another cereal that I like and then add some protein powder to it. And it's great. Well, that sounds better than just straight grape nuts. I don't know if I could do that. That looks like one of the most bland cereals in the universe, try then. It's pretty bland. OK. Can you mix it with Reese's peanut butter puff cereal? Yeah. How would that taste? Actually, what I mix it with, it's ghost protein. They have a peanut butter cereal. So.

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It's basically that is what I do. And then I just add a little bit of protein powder to it. But Emily makes fun of me all the time and goes, Hey, remember that one time you're like, I'll try great nuts once. then became your entire personality. Your personality is great nuts. That's mean. That's really my personality is great nuts. Bland AF. I don't think so. I think your personality is more like

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Captain Crunch or something like better than Grape Nuts. You're not like 80, come on. Thank you, but I do love what the 80 year old's be rocking when it comes to cereal apparently. Yeah. I don't know, I'll have to pour you a bowl sometime when you're over Amanda. You're an old soul. Do it. I'll try it for content, but I will not try it for enjoyment. Perfect. Well, I just thought now would be the time to admit this because I feel like I've been keeping this from everybody for quite a long time, but.

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In the house, Grape Nuts is a conversation that happens a lot and somehow you've not really been a part of it, Amanda. Wow, I feel left out. This is a big portion of your life each day, but whatever, I'll move on. I do feel like I've been cheating a little. Oh my God. Well, you guys, I also have a dreadful dilemma besides the Internet and my children. And it happened just this afternoon. It happened at the zoo.

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That is my call back to earlier. While I was at the zoo with my youngest daughter, Winnie, who is three, I wanted to do something special with her because her older sister's in school now. She is feeling left out. We have a zoo membership and that seemed like the place to go. So we were minding our own business. were at the Penguin exhibit and all of a sudden.

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uh Fight breaks out it was one big guy coming up to a smaller guy And the smaller guy stuck his chest out was all puffed out acting real tough Ended up knocking the bigger one into the penguin pond. Whoa right in front of us It was a whole thing. It's a human fight. Not a penguin fight, right?

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Oh, you fucker. Well, I have it all on video and I would like to just show you guys. get what she's doing. Okay. Okay, hold on. sharing my screen. I'm so dumb for this one. Okay. Oh yeah, they're fighting. Oh wow, that is a big guy. Oh, oh, oh my, oh, now he's getting involved. Wow.

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That was crazy, Wow. The little guy was a bully. Was that the dumbest thing that I've ever done? No, it was adorable. Did you see that little penguin? He was like... He's very cute. Let me see if I can actually just bring the picture back He had like Napoleon syndrome or whatever. He was like, I'm little. There's the picture. He's a little guy. Very cute. But he makes up for it with attitude. He's certainly...

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did. We were standing there and he just totally manhandled the other one, knocked him right into the penguin pond. Wow. Look at that instant replay, Trevin. A real David versus Goliath situation. Maybe they're a couple and the little one was like, you pissed me off. You shouldn't do that. And he was like, I know, I know. And then maybe they made up in the pond or something. don't know. So the guy's the little one?

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could very well be. Either way, know, whatever. I just felt so dumb, but I was like, you know what, it'll be a funny little thing to get their hopes up thinking it's humans. It was just a penguin fight, pushing one into the penguin pool, but still dreadful. I still don't like animal on animal violence, you know?

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I liked that actually. With the way the world is now, it's nice to see two penguins brawling rather than scrolling social media and seeing humans do it. I'm glad that it was penguins. That's awesome. That's true. That was a great thing to have on replay to just watch over and over again. Yeah. I love penguins. They're so cute.

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Oh yeah, and you actually did have me going at the very beginning. was like a big gun and you said they fell in the water and I'm like, oh shit. Like how do you always see the coolest stuff? Because you saw a fight not too long ago at that trampoline park. So I thought, dang, this girl just keeps seeing You saw a fight at a trampoline park? I have seen fights in a lot of random places. Restaurants, trampoline parks, just out and about. I randomly see very weird little fights, but this time no humans were hurt in the making.

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That's good. I never see fights. I would love to see more fights only in hockey games. That's like the only time I see a fight. Yeah, I never see them either. Yeah. So Kelly, I heard that you have a dreadful dilemma that is probably more dreadful than even what we're experiencing. Well, yeah. something dreadful is a great way to describe it. This weekend, I camped for like four nights straight out in the woods. It was a campground, like a

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County Park kind of campground, very primitive on the water. I had something kind of terrifying happen Saturday night. It was about 1230 at night. I was awakened by this repetitive sound of like wood tapping. At first I thought it was acorns falling on the ground or branches falling. I was like, oh, the wind probably picked up something like that's happening. I tried to go back to sleep and I couldn't get

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back to sleep because it kept happening and then my brain noticed a pattern it just kept happening and happening like every 15 to 20 seconds. You know how it registers with you where a sound is coming from so I'm in my tent and I know it's coming from in front of me and slightly to the side but then the sound it moved down the gravel road and then it was happening in a path kind of like this wood on wood tapping or kind of like a

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the whacking sound. wasn't like a bunch of them. It was like one. And then about 15 seconds later, another one. And it was coming closer to my tent. And it worked its way towards the water and then around where I was camping over to the left and then around my tent. And it was about probably 20 feet away from me. But it took a path down a road around

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and then around me and it went on probably about like six to eight minutes. And I was just sitting in my tent. I was like, is this a person like hitting something? Is this an animal? What could this possibly be? There's no way for me to describe how like scary it was. It was really scary. I was kind of like shaking a little bit. I texted my friend at 12 36 a.m. exactly. I said, I'm scared.

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And I did not know what was going on. I felt this intense feeling of dread. I was like, I gotta leave my tent. I grabbed my cell phone and my keys. didn't have shoes on. just unzipped the tent, ran to my Jeep, started it, locked the doors. I didn't even zip my tent back and I left. I don't live too far away and I just drove home.

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My purse, my debit cards, everything was still in the tent. I was so scared. I just left everything behind. I couldn't sleep then when I got home, I was like Googling, this is what just happened to me. What could this have been? Was this an animal? And the first thing that came up was, this sounds exactly like other reports of Sasquatch in the woods. I was like,

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Did I just experience something paranormal? It was really scary. I'm not saying it was a Bigfoot. I don't really believe in stuff like that, but I've played it over in my head a million times. I've been like on all the forums. like, maybe it was a Bigfoot. I don't know. It was scary enough though. And I did not go back until the next day at like 10 AM and I brought a friend with me. It was really scary. So.

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That was my dilemma. Like, did I encounter a Bigfoot? What happened? I don't know. Yeah, you're just trying to enjoy yourself for a quiet night and you meet Bigfoot. Yeah, I don't want that. I mean, I do want a big hairy man in my life, but not Bigfoot. No. So none of your stuff was messed with when you got back or anything? That would be my fear. Nothing abnormal. No, not at all. I would have been terrified.

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So you kept hearing the thwack noises, but like as it felt like it was getting closer, did it seem like any type of other movement around it was getting closer? No, and I noted that there were no like footsteps. There was no like gravel sound. Nobody like walking, nothing like that. It was just this one and then like 15 to 20 seconds later, another one in like this pattern of sound, but no twigs breaking. No, nothing like that. It was just really bizarre.

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And I'm going to go right to the paranormal explanation. think that was Bigfoot hands down. I'm a believer. Let's go with that. I had a Bigfoot experience. I'll go ahead and certify it. Put the stamp on it. Yes. I love camping and I love the outdoors and I don't want to stop doing that, but I don't want to run into Bigfoot again either. Yeah. Do you have a weapon with you when you normally

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No, I don't have a gun with me. I don't travel with a gun. I should. I would like I have my permit to carry, but I just never have anything with me like that. But I have a sweet Swiss Army knife that I keep with me and it's really sharp. I've cut myself multiple times accidentally with it. So I have a knife with me. Okay. I was going to say you look like a person who would be this like badass with knives. Maybe you even can hold three in each hand. You have that look like in a good way.

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Great. Yeah. So I do carry a knife. The other thing, highly recommend. I heard this little hack years ago and I always do it when I'm alone. I keep my keys with me with my remote, just in case you have to hit the emergency signal, you know, the emergency beep beep beep, because that's going to drive everyone around you crazy and wake them up. So they're going to come to wherever you are. So I always have my

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key remote with me ready to hit that. Everyone should do that just in case. So that's a great idea. Great tip. You got to annoy people sometimes to make them care. Yeah. Yep. Well, Trevin, should we get into our segment portion? Let's do some segments.

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We wanted to tie this into your sleep podcast, Kelly. Oh, nice. Okay. With your true crime sleep stories, is every single story that you hear on the podcast, are they written by you or other people that work with you? I do all of that. Yep. Oh, you do all the writing. I do all of that. My publisher once in a while will help me with some ideas and stuff, but I usually do all of the writing for that.

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Okay, so is it like you get a book done and then that's one season of all the stories? Yeah, the books are basically a collection of my podcast episodes that I've done. My publisher came to me and they were like, your podcast would make a great book. So like every chapter is basically a podcast episode pretty much. Awesome. That's perfect. We keep talking about doing some sort of a coffee table book or something with selected stories that we write. Yes, I highly recommend it.

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Podcasting lends itself to like a book. It's like such a good transition. You've got everything written already. You've got transcripts available. Just put it into a book. You definitely should do that. Cause some people don't want to hear me, but they like reading. Yeah. Different mediums for everyone. Some people like to read some like podcasts, some like more visual stuff. There's something for everyone.

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So true. Very true. So because of your sleep podcast, Trevin and I each wanted to share a bizarre sleep fact. Oh, nice. I love that. I thought by the end you said you were just going to do it. Oh no, I thought you were going to do one too. Okay. Well, it's just me then. Well, Trevin gets a big F. No, I'm just kidding. If anyone gets an F, it's me for technical difficulties. Okay. No. So today I am going to tell you guys about something

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that I have personally experienced and I wanted to research it, regardless of it being on the podcast or not. It's something that I needed to know. Why does this happen? Okay. This is an article from healthgrades.com. So they must know it all. This is called sleep myoclonus. It is the quick involuntary jerking of a muscle or group of muscles.

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Has this ever happened to you guys where you're trying to go to sleep and then all of a sudden it's like, feel like I'm falling. have like a dream or something. I think I'm falling and I jerk. Yes. Yeah. I guess I didn't realize that's what we were talking about. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And they're called a jerk or Twitch, a falling effect, just like you said, Kelly. So you can experience this as a Twitch jerk or a feeling of falling while you're drifting off to sleep.

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It may or may not awaken you. People commonly use the term sleep starts to describe these jerking movements. Other names for them are called hypnogenic jerks. I think that's what I originally called it to you, Trevin. Yeah, you said something with a jerk in the title. Yeah, because you were like, are you calling me Because I got offended real quick.

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In fact, about 70 % of people have experienced this. So it can happen to completely healthy individuals, but there are things that do make them worse, which are all the fun things, right? Alcohol, caffeine, stimulant drugs, lack of sleep and stress. oh Yeah. I thought you were going to say like,

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You are definitely schizophrenic or something like that if you're experiencing this. No. Okay, good. I thought you were going to say lack of stimulant drugs also was a cause.

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No, no, no, no, no. It's actually quite common. So we're not all dying. We're not all plummeting to our death in our dreams and in real life. It's a very natural and normal thing, I guess. That's good. I'm glad to hear I'm normal. I don't think I am. Yes, you're normal. That's awesome to hear. And it's been a while since I've experienced one, I feel like. Now that we talk about it, it's like, when is the last time I just kicked my feet up in the air and said, oh, I'm falling, you know?

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I don't think mine was that long ago. It might've actually been this weekend too, while I was camping or something like not being in a familiar place or something, you know? Always a little bit of a lighter sleep when it's not your own bed. Absolutely. And I guess there's a lot of theories and there's been scientific studies, but the simple answer that everyone has come to is that your brain is starting to go to sleep and your body's just trying to play catch up and doing weird things.

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Oh, okay. Yeah, I always feel like I'm like falling off a cliff and I'm like trying to catch myself and like I wake up. Mine is usually that I'm walking and then I trip and then right when I'm about to hit my face on the ground is usually when I kick my head and my feet up or out at the same time. Oh, feet too. I just do like a, but you got feet too. Okay. Yeah. I'm like a reverse donkey kick sort of. Oh no. Have you ever kicked anyone in bed with you? I have.

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Not, but I have punched somebody in the face in bed with me. Oh, Emily. It was a girl. I awful. Yes. Oh, it was a hard time. I deal with so much like guilt already from just interrupt somebody. I'm like, oh, God, I'm to be hating myself later on that one. But I had this dream about this dude that I knew from high school who was pissing me off. And I went like, like that in my dream. Oh, no. And I came down and.

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I woke up to the feeling of my fist just like hitting a person's skull. Did she have a bloody nose or anything like that? She did have a little bit of a black eye. Oh, Oh, that's terrible. You want to know something that's even worse than that one time? So I used to sleep with my little boys to get them to sleep at night because, you know, toddlers, I was having a dream and I still cannot hardly even say it. But he was like three. I bit my

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Toddler's arm and I don't know why like I bit him like not terribly hard But I just like bit him and I woke up I was like what is happening and I was married at the time and I Felt so bad. I started crying and I'm like, I don't know what kind of dream I was having where I did that I felt so terrible like I would never bite my child It was awful, but we do weird things in our sleep things happen. Yeah, I recently did an episode about Kenneth

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Harkes, I think was his name, who actually murdered his in-laws in his sleep. And it was actually a sleepwalking case. And he got off and they literally thought he like drove there, killed them unintentionally. It was like blamed on sleepwalking. So yeah, we do weird things in our sleep sometimes. That's a fear of mine. I don't want to commit any crimes in my sleep. That's like...

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The only crime I'm going to commit is like murdering that chocolate cake in my fridge when I'm too sleepy. Yeah. That's a good crime. I'll regret it, but I can deal with it. Well, Trevin, do you want to jump into our weird news stories we want to talk about? Yes, I do. I was kind of going through some stuff that was recent and some of the stuff that I have to talk about isn't

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crimes so much, they still tie in really well with our show. And I think Kelly's just going to enjoy them either way. Your little story you just told us there about your toddler segues me perfectly into my first story here. Okay. Oh. In July of this year, coming from Yahoo News, toddler bites cobra to death. A toddler bit a cobra? Oh! A toddler in India bit a venomous cobra so hard that he killed it. Two-year-old

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Govinda Kumar was playing in his home in Benkatwa, a village in eastern Indian state of Bihar, when he spotted the three-foot-long snake and grabbed it. The cobra lunged at the child and coiled itself around his tiny hands during the incident. But instead of screaming, the child put the snake's head in his mouth and clenched his jaw. He quickly lost consciousness after ingesting some of the deadly venom, but was treated in a hospital and has since been discharged.

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The snake died on the spot. That kid's a badass. He's going to grow up to be like Chuck Norris. Like nothing can touch him. He literally ingested Cobra venom and killed a Cobra at two years old. How do you top that? I never will. There's no better, more badass origin story than that one. I think we told the story about a man who bit a snake to death, but it's not the same when it's a kid who was just like, ew, it's on my hand. I'm just going to bite it and get it off.

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murder. I'm not a big snake fan myself. I would have been freaking out. So that kid is already way stronger than I am. And I'm a little jealous about it. Yeah, same. I've never been a huge snake fan, but I'm trying to get better about it. I saw a snake this weekend. And I didn't run away from it. I actually followed it and took a video of it. That's not really like me to do that. But I'm trying to welcome all the nature stuff except

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Bigfoot. That's growth. It's good of you to see that and challenge yourself to kind of stick with it a little bit. I have a hard time with animals that aren't cuddly, so I get it. Yeah. Kudos to that kid. For sure. Well, I have one and this is a really recent, recent story and I really wanted to cover it on our show, but

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I don't know. Once I explain it, I think it'll make more sense why I was kind of hesitant. Okay. I'm sure with your show, you adapt real stories. So you know what it's like to have to adapt something into making it a narrative that works for the story you want to tell. When we do this, a lot of times we kind of dissect why we couldn't do a full story on it, because sometimes we're just so limited with what we can do with the characters. Yeah. But they're always still such good crimes to hear about. Oh yeah.

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Oh yeah. It's a great one and it's gone viral. It's a little more of a sensitive subject. So I am coming from NBC Los Angeles.com. Man dubbed butt sniffer arrested again in Burbank. Did you see this, Trevin?

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I did see this. A-Line actually sent this to me a day or two ago and was like, this is so triple L-coded. You need to do this. And I had seen it once and thought about it and then waited. And sometimes I have to let it, you know, kind of go in my head for a bit to see if I really want to go there. It seemed too good not to. I've just haven't quite thought of how to do a story angle for this one yet. Maybe we still can. It's kind of extremely creepy. anyway.

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A man previously arrested for inappropriate behavior was taken into custody once again after allegedly sniffing a woman's behind inside a Walgreens store in Burbank. Burbank police told NBC4 that 38-year-old Khalees Crowder, also known by officers as the butt sniffer,

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was recognized by store employees who reported the incident shortly before 11 PM. Crowder had previously been arrested in Burbank on July 22nd in connection with similar behavior. So this is not the first, but he is sniffed. I wouldn't even say it's number two. Oh, using the store surveillance system.

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Officers monitored the suspect as he moved through various departments while in the women's section the suspect was observed following a female customer Crouching near her and engaging in lewd behavior by inappropriately sniffing her buttocks How do you get it? It seems like he's gotten away with it for so long I'm at a loss

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It says Crowder is a registered sex offender currently on parole. He has a history of similar offenses dating back to 2021. Anyone with information regarding the case is urged to contact the Burbank Police Department's Investigations Division.

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It's hard to find the words with that. If I saw this headline, a lot of times I feel like my brain would think, oh, maybe it wasn't what it looks like. But this dude's just a real serial ass sniffer. I don't know what to think about it. have so many thoughts. like, does he want someone who hasn't showered? Does he want perfume? Like, what is he going for here? I don't understand it. And did it say only female? Did I miss that?

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Yeah, I'm pretty sure all of the people that have reported it have been female. But yeah, good and fair question, Kelly. Like, what kind of sin is this weirdo looking for? It's not going to probably be a good one. He probably wants a more pungent kind of like scent. think that's what they're going for. Usually they want that he probably does not want it to smell like tide, I'm guessing. Yeah. Oh, wow.

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You said it was lewd behavior. Is that what he got charged with? Yes. Because like, how do you classify that? And I need to show you guys this guy's mugshot. I added it to the chat if you want to see it. did you? I kind of want a partner who loves me that much, who wants to sniff my butt, I guess. Right. Like, I'm like, you love me and all of my... What is... It's like Shrek. He reminds me of Shrek with the ears. No, the ears.

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Yeah, something's going on. I'm with you on though That would be nice if somebody did love me that much like if you didn't even have to worry about showering You just knew it was that unconditional. Yeah, like I went to the gym I haven't showered today and you love my essence and my aura and my scent that would be great But not a stranger when I'm like at Target. I don't want that right that essence the essence like not when I'm at Walgreens

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No. And how ballsy of this guy. Geez. Just get up in there. You got to get your face close. that's why I'm like, how did you get away with it that many times? Because you have to get your face close. And then what do you just run away really quick? Like prance off. If he did that to me, I would kick him in the face probably. Like that would not be good. Honestly, I don't think the risk is worth the reward. But also the logistics of pulling it off is difficult, too.

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He probably also buys bottled farts from only fans, women or something like that. I could see it. guys, they'll buy some canned farts if you get the right ones. I had to share it. It was everywhere. I saw it even on TMZ and I was like, I don't really know what angle to take, but I have to talk about this with someone. It needs to be on the show. And if the listeners want to make it into a full story.

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I don't know, maybe with the listeners could collaborate and put one together. There we go. Yeah. And in that way, if people want to cancel us for making a story about a sex offender, I can cancel the crowd and not myself. There we They wouldn't cancel. It's an interesting story, I think. Well, if I got canceled, I'd probably actually gain listeners at this point.

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Okay, so I have one for you that I almost thought would make a story just because I think some of the fun of our show is just building the sound design and putting somebody in the awkward situation. I don't know, I think to me that's one of most interesting things is just like what led to somebody to do something so weird. That's why I like this kind of crime more because you can still question motive the same. You just don't have to have the sad stuff afterwards. So coming from WSB TV 2 Atlanta.

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Man charged with throwing deep freezer at victim causing him to fall into Lake Lanier. This one I still don't fully understand as far as how big of a deep freeze is this guy the Hulk. I have no idea. A 42 year old Metro Atlanta man is facing multiple charges after officials say he knocked another man unconscious at Lake Lanier. Hall County deputies said it happened on the evening of July 2nd on a boat slip. Can I just jump into Trevin?

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Lake Lanier, a lot of bizarre shit has happened there. That's one of the creepy lakes that a lot of true crime podcasts share because it's like haunted. lot of bizarre accidents have happened there. I would say this might be another bizarre one. OK. The victim is a 59 year old male. This guy was a 42 year old guy and there's two other women. According to this, Young stripped himself of all his clothes in front of the victim and one of the women, leading to an argument.

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During the argument, Young punched the 59-year-old in his chest and got off the boat. According to deputies, the three believe Young went back to his boat and the victim began walking the two women to the end of the dock. Young then appeared and threw a deep freezer at the victim. Deputies said the freezer hit the victim in his head, knocking him out and causing him to fall into the lake. When the 59-year-old man regained consciousness, he swam to shore, suffering a large cut on his head. Officials said the victim refused medical attention.

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Around 315 a.m. the following morning, deputies got an arrest warrant for aggravated assault. Deputies announced themselves several times, but Young turned the lights off on his boat and silenced his phone. They entered the houseboat and found him hiding under a bed. He was arrested and charged with aggravated assault, simple battery, public indecency, and three counts of obstruction of an officer. Young was booked into the Hall County Jail and posted a $13,230 bond and was released on Sunday. almost could write it, I just... I'm glad he survived.

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Like what leads to that? Yeah. Also like what size deep freeze? Was it one of those little deep freezes or was it like the kind you hide a full body in in the true crime stories that we read about? Like which kind? Right. If it's big enough for him to pick it up and throw it, I would argue that it's not that deep. Just a medium deep. He strips his clothes off. It leads to an argument for some reason. And then fighting breaks out. just trying to adapt to like why somebody would do that. And

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I couldn't really come up with a good, funny reason. You're partying with a few friends and it's like, I'm naked. Yeah. And I'm mad about it. And nobody wants it. Obviously. Like you stripped all your clothes off. Nobody wanted that. And then before you know it, you've got a deep freezer on your head. It's just such a bizarre thing. I do want to know the deep freeze situation, but I guess this guy just believes whatever happens on the party boat stays on the party boat. I guess that is a good rule for boats in general. Keep the pants on though.

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Maybe next time. Keep the clothes on. Maybe. But maybe not. Maybe not. But let your friends decide. Like, consent first. Like, can I take all of this off? Do you want me to take this off? No? OK, I won't. Yes? Yeah. OK. Yeah. Maybe take a vote. Maybe take a poll. But not that poll. Yeah. I knew you were going to come up with something with the poll. Sorry.

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So are we ready for my next one? Cause this is another one I've been holding onto forever. The website that I'm getting this crime from is content.time.com. The article is top 10 outrageous legal battles. And this is one I've been holding onto this crime for probably two years. It's one that I...

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keep coming back to and I keep questioning if I should do it or not and it just hasn't worked out. So it's coming out today. Yay. Most of us acknowledge that the beer commercial fantasy of beaches, babes and booze is just that, a fantasy and move on. Not Richard Overton. In 1991, he sued Anaheiser Bush for $10,000.

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citing false and misleading advertising that allegedly caused emotional distress, mental injury, and financial loss. Overton said the company's ads, which depicted Beer's magical ability to facilitate scenic tropical settings and beautiful women and men engaged in endless and unrestricted merriment, turned out to be untrue. The case was dismissed.

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Oh boy. he was just upset that that magical stuff didn't happen to him. Yeah, it sounds like it. He was just mad that you don't drink the beer and the girls in bikinis appear and you're on an island and it doesn't give you that life that they depict in the commercials. You see those signs and stuff on commercials and say like, Oh, does not actually do this. And you're like, why do they need to say that? And it's for people like that. Do you think that that guy was

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trying to just win a court case or do you think he really felt that belief? think he was trying to win a court case and also a miserable human being. That's what I think. I think he was a lonely guy who drank too much beer alone and got wrapped up in a fantasy and then was like, hey, maybe I could sue him for some money.

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Also, like he only sued them for $10,000. I've never heard of like a lawsuit like that against a company as big as Anheuser-Busch where you're aiming as low as $10,000. Usually it's like a million or hundreds of thousands, but 10,000. He was like, I think I can get this. Maybe, or like he had a bill to pay or something like that. was $10,000. Let's see if I can get them to pay it. Did he have a lawyer or did he do it himself?

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The legal fees on doing that probably is going to make it even less than 10,000. This guy, he was just needing to pay his rent for the next few months or something. So I have one more crime here that I'm going to share that I feel so terrible because I know at least one listener told me to share this before this recording. I went through our Instagram messages and was looking and Instagram it's all their fault because it wouldn't load and let me go up.

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far enough to see the older messages to see who did it. This was highly talked about amongst our people and I'm coming from APNews.com. A cat named Leonardo DiPinci doesn't want your affection, he wants to steal your underwear. Wellington, New Zealand. Most cat owners dread their pets bringing home mice or birds, but for the owners of one felonious feline in Auckland, there's worse shame, being the unwitting accomplice to an unstoppable one cat crime wave.

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His prolific laundry pinching from clotheslines and bedrooms in the placid beachside neighborhood of Murangi Bay was turned 15-month-old Leo into a local celebrity and earned him a new moniker. He now goes by Leonardo da Pinci. He's got expensive taste. His frequent hauls include silk boxer shorts, thick men's work socks, preferably with clothespins still attached, and in one mortifying episode for his humans, a brand new 300 New Zealand dollar.

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cashmere sweater. My daughter was at home sick and she rang me at work saying, it's bad. It's bad. This is the worst he's brought in. It's really bad. Said Leo's owner, Helen North, because it was beautiful. I was like, Oh, can I keep that? But I couldn't. Instead, North turned to a neighborhood WhatsApp group to return Leo's stolen goods to their rightful owners. Her usual message, are these your undies? The pilfered stash kept piling up. Piles of socks.

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loads of underwear, and even a five foot long stuffed snake. On one record setting day, Leo returned with nine items, enough for a full outfit if you didn't mind a mix of everything from baby clothes to menswear. Quote, he brought in a jersey this morning at 10 past eight. The shops hadn't even opened. With dozens of items unclaimed, the embarrassed owner took her search for Leo's victims wider this month, posting photos of his haul to the local Facebook page with an apology. There's a couple of pictures on here that just show

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all these different socks and loads of underwear. There's a small picture there at the bottom that shows him just sitting there next to him. That's some good stuff that he's gotten. He's cute too. He's super cute. cute. I had a feeling Amanda would feel attached to him because she grew up with Siamese cats. I just got my first cat. Yes, I saw the picture and was like a month ago and I'm obsessed with him. I've never had a cat before.

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I made him his own Instagram page and everything. Oh, we got to follow that. He sits with me when I write. I love him. His name's Church named after Pet Sematary, the cat and pet cemetery. Is he a gray cat too? haven't seen him. Yeah, he's a Russian blue, the same as he looks exactly like the cat in that movie. are the best. What's his Instagram handle so we can give him a proper shout? Church the cat. Okay, so it's underscore Church dot.

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the.cat underscore. Lots of stuff, but that's my kitty. Oh my God. But I wish he'd bring me back stuff, but I don't let him outside. I'm too afraid. So he's an indoor cat. Yeah, I do not do that. I only let my main guy out when he's supervised and just walking around with me because if you tell him he can't go somewhere, he's going to try to go. Mine was a rescue. And I'm like, I can't let you out ever again because you're going to get a taste of that.

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leave me now. My cat goes in and out and I wish he would bring me underwear instead of all these creepy animals that he tortures brings you animals? Whoa, what a good hunter. Yes, he's brought in birds, lizards, cicadas, bunnies, snakes. Bunnies? A lot. They were alive and they were really cute. Little baby bunnies. I mean,

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good kitty though, like he's being a good kitty. He's doing what he's supposed to do. Yeah, he's an all right guy. He's not too bad. So Kelly, I was going to have you talk a little bit about your show, but first you did say that you committed a petty crime in your life and that you thought maybe now is the time to confess it. did. I don't talk about this ever, but it has haunted me for

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decades. So when I was 14 years old, I was a freshman and I was hanging out with girls who were juniors and they had their driver's licenses. I didn't obviously, and I was riding around with them on a weekend night, you know, in the summertime. And we stopped at Kmart because we're small town girls and that's what you did on a Saturday night. You just go to Kmart. They went to the sunglass kiosk little

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roundabout thingy at Kmart. Lazy Susan thing? Yes. And they each took a pair of sunglasses. They were trying them on and they took them. They just stuck them in their purse. And I was like, what are you doing? And I would have not normally done that. But they were like, you steal one now. So they were like, you have to take a pair of sunglasses. And I was like, no, I'm not doing that. I don't want to get in trouble.

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And they were like, well, we did it, so you have to do it. And I felt so much peer pressure. I did take a pair of sunglasses. And I mean, I had an issue with this. Like, I never really got over it into adulthood. That's the only thing I've ever stolen. I would never even steal staples or anything like that, like from work or something like, but yeah, it's haunted me forever. So I stole a pair of sunglasses from Kmart.

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when I was 14 because those little bitches I was with, were like, you have to do it. It's always the worst when it's peer pressure too. You didn't even get the high from it because you felt controlled. I was like, I'm going to hell for this. I just felt so bad. That's like teenage gang mentality and I am not here for it. I feel so bad that they made you feel like you had to do that.

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And also, can we just say, I really miss Kmart. I don't think Kmarts exist anymore. I don't think so either. think maybe somewhere there's like maybe one remaining Kmart. I'm not really sure, actually, but I grew up in a really small town. So going to Kmart was actually kind of like being in the city. If there was a Kmart, then it's like, oh, you're in like the big city.

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Yeah. do remember Kmart being a pretty cool place. The Big K. The best. Oh, well, this was way before it was the Big K. This was when it was actually still Kmart. Oh, yeah. And then it became the Big K later, but this was like OG Kmart Martha Stewart living sheets and towels in Kmart. Do you remember that? Probably not. Oh, yes. I remember the nostalgia is real. I remember a little bit of it.

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It was a very white store, remember that, but we were more of a Walmart family. But I do remember going to Kmart because, you know, was like going to the Pepsi store instead of the Coke store. Oh, interesting. Interesting. Okay. You're to be at CrimeCon with us. So you'll be there promoting your True Crime Sleep Stories podcast. And I'm sure you'll probably have some book stuff there as well.

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I'll be selling books. can buy singles, volume one, two or three, or you can buy a three pack. I'll be signing books. Also ask me about Missing Persons Archives while you're there. Anybody can come up and ask about that. It's my new project. So I'm really excited. I think it's my fourth CrimeCon I've been to and it's in Denver. I love Denver. I'm there a lot. My family lives there, so I could not pass that up. I'm excited to see you guys too.

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We're excited to see you too. We're so excited to see you. You've been one of our oldest friends as a podcaster friend and you met us when we were three months old in Kansas City. We didn't even really know what we were doing with our podcast. We were just like, we have a podcast that sort of sways true crime. We live in Kansas City, so we might as well just do it. And meeting you and meeting Justin and Aaron and Josh, a few other people.

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During that time, cause it was like right after the COVID thing. So there wasn't a whole lot of people there and getting to actually kind of like represent your brand right off the bat and have to be the face of it that early. It like accidentally made me way more serious by just doing that. Not that I wasn't already like really pushing for the creative project, but yeah, it was just so cool to have met you guys and to have had this friendship for so long, because it's crazy to think that like we've been doing this show for over four years now.

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And I have known you for like four years. is crazy. Actually, that was a good convention too. It was the second crime thing I had ever done. I did crime con just right before that. think what a good one. There were fireworks. That was fun. Yeah, that was a good one. It was on fourth of July. Wasn't that like one of the days, fourth of July? Yeah. Oh yeah. I remember that. That was we all like gathered all the podcasters and we all watched it out the big window.

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And we had all the free booze because not that many people came. So the like meet and greet thing was just an open bar because there wasn't enough people to even try to sell it. There was a Bloody Mary bar. It's all coming back to me now. Yes. Cause it was COVID related too. We were treated like celebrities, all of us. So that was like the best. That was great. Oh yeah. They're just like, Oh, keep having more. We'll replace it with another plate.

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I thought, is this really how this works? Usually? No, we will not be treated like that at CrimeCon, but it'll still be fun. Yeah. That was one thing I had to get out of my like expectations after the first time was like, oh no, it's not free booze all the time and it's not free special snacks, but everything else is still great. Yeah, it was great. I'm glad that I know you guys. I'm glad I met you there and we've been able to maintain our little podcast.

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Friendship all these years. It's been great. Yeah. And we're so glad we finally had you on. Thank you so much. I'm so glad as well. Thank you so much. My books, it's True Crime Sleep Stories, Volume 1, 2, and 3. They're all available on Amazon. If you want to follow me on Instagram, you can follow me at Kelly Brink, K-E-L-L-I-B-R-I-N-K or True Crime Sleep Stories or

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missing persons archives. You can follow any of those and there's a YouTube channel for each. You can just go to the links in the link tree. And are you just kind of like ongoing writing? So like a fourth one and a fifth one and just going to keep going? I'm done as of right now with the true crime sleep stories books. It was a lot to put out in a year and a half or so. So I'm not doing any more books. Plus I'm like, eh, I'm not a writer. So I'm like, I don't

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think I want to write any more books right now. It takes a lot of energy and I just want to put it into the podcast and my other projects. There will be more missing persons archives books, but I have a partner on that. So that's nice to have. It's nice. You guys have each other. It's nice to have a partner in your projects. like that. Yeah, it's really nice. Even just the collaborative way of like spinning each other's ideas and making it better.

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All of our listeners definitely go out and follow Kelly, follow her cat, get her books, listen to her podcasts, support our girl in any way that you see fit. Okay. Thank you so much, you guys. And I just want all of our listeners to know that no matter the crime, or small, in the end, we're all doomed. Doomed to be dubbed the butt sniffer.

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Bye! See ya! m

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I do feel like I've been cheating a little.

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Oh my God, Trevin, sorry, Winnie keeps banging on my window. I was going to say somebody has a visitor. God. This is a test. This is a test. And I think I've already determined based on my internet connection and my children interaction that this might not be a thing we do in the future, but we will try.